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Mohinder Suresh Heroes FanVid - "They" by Jem 
15th-Dec-2006 05:34 pm
Grave Lying
*sings* Tis the season to be jolly... fa la la la la, la la la la...

Even though this isn't technically a christmas song, it sounds christmasy to me with all the choral "ba ba ba" in it. Anyway, it's a nice reflection on the spiritualism that comes with that culture.

This video is a reflection on the Heroes character of Mohinder Suresh showing the relationship he has with his parents and co-workers, the quest to discover if his father's theories on enhanced genetics are true, and the assistance he receives from Eden and Sanjog (the little boy). Basically it sums up Mohinder's storyline.

SO, without further ado, let me present "They" by Jem (Mohinder Suresh's first character vid)

They - Jem (A Mohinder Suresh Heroes Fanvid)

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Warning: Features clips from Season 1, Episodes 1-11

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Comments 
15th-Dec-2006 08:42 am (UTC)
Nicely done. The music was different, and also gave a vaguely "Indian" feel which works well with our lovely 'desi' Mohinder. I liked the intercuts between the lyrics and all the other heroes, Eden and Sanjog. Oooooh, where are they indeed? Happy hols! -lis
15th-Dec-2006 09:19 am (UTC)
Thank you :D That, um, wasn't intentional but it works well (and I love it when things work). The original Heroes thing pushed this idea in my mind, and it is quite interesting isn't it - where are they? He's the last to know hehe. But, u know, it was nice to put things in a somewhat explainable timeline/order too which was good :D And I think I made myself more of a Mohinder/Eden shipper than I already was... what a shame that's over.

Anyways, I hope you have a great Christmas/New Year break too *hugz* If I do not comment b4hand (which is bound to happen hehe)
15th-Dec-2006 11:26 pm (UTC)
wooohoo I loved this MV! Also those fast cuts [forgive me I don't know the technical terms] that went side-side-down-up-side-side was so cool, like snapshots of moments in Mohinder's life. And how the shouting matches were being punctuated by "I'm sorry, so sorry, I'm sorry, it's like this". Poor Angsty!Moh though I don't care much for his father. *gives the evil eyes glare* And "who are they, where are they" is just so fitting for Mohinder's character - the SEEKER. Plus I am quite interested in finding out how Bennet & Suresh "know all this" too.
16th-Dec-2006 12:49 pm (UTC)
*yay* hehe I'm glad :D

Those fast cuts (which were the last things I put in so they drove me mental cause of my programs inability to show me transitions when they're previewing the thing sometimes) are known as a "push". Believe me I had to chase up which effect it was again LOL I was trying to track it down from memory off my original Heroes vid *nods* But it was good - snapshots, like u said, of his questing purpose.

I'm glad you noticed that :D There were lots of reflections on the "sorry" thing. One being the destructive relationship he had with his father, and how now he sometimes wishes he could take it all back. And how Chandra was always later regretful of being so hard on Mohinder. And how his mother revealed they'd been keeping secrets from him. And then u sort of pass onto the hidden guilt that Sylar feels at the monstorous person he's become from Chandra's influence, and you pass through that into the events that surrounded Chandra's death and how Mohinder finally caved to the emotion of accepting that. I'm glad I did this vid cause you saw a lot of Mohinder's character in there - the angstyness (as u said), the frustration... I think I turned myself into a Mohinder/Eden shipper in the process LOL

U wouldn't think the "who are they, where are they" line would be relevant to his character until you look at his plight. It's become a physical, mental and emotional task for the man. And you called it perfectly - the SEEKER. ;) It was good to finally organise it to reflect just what HRGM's part in all this has been. I look forward to discovering just what it is THEY know that WE don't too :D

Thanks so much for watching! *hugz*
17th-Dec-2006 10:01 am (UTC)
I have to say that Mohinder's character and story often seem to get lost in the perhaps more faster-moving or dramataic stories of the other characters and one never gets the chance to appreciate how much he has had to deal with. So this video was an excellent way for me to be reminded about all those things you just mentioned above. As for Mohinder/Eden I didn't like it before but once we start to gain more insight into Eden's character I really started liking her and wasn't at all averse to the idea! but then she had to go and sacrifice herself :(
17th-Dec-2006 10:17 am (UTC)
Hmm... I think maybe they just need to break up the Mohinder action a little more. I mean it was great to start with, we had a little bit of him in each episode, and then they kinda forgot about him, then they realised that and went "oh shit" and so made episode 8 a whole bunch about him (which is where I ended up going "I know I missed him, but not THAT much"), then went back to the moderate Mohinder by ep 9 (which, u know was easy to forget cause HELLO Homecoming action and all!) and he's kind of falling back into the shadows because of the whole "last to know" thing. :( Maybe *suggests* they should cut back on giving Niki so much screentime (as much as I love Ali Larter, u gotta agree that she gets way more character-building screentime than most) and start offering it out to our neglected boys like Mohinder, Nathan & Isaac.

As for Mohinder/Eden, well... it's weird. When she was first on I was all "I LOVE her! She's my favourite chick!" and then we saw she was working with HRGM (who was the pinacle of all evil still) and she went after Isaac and I was all "No, don't u hurt him!" and so I didn't really like her anymore, and I've never had that total love return BUT I do like her little relationship with Mohinder. And when I put the footage together I think I was reminded of that so I decided I must be a Mohinder/Eden shipper then LOL
17th-Dec-2006 10:35 am (UTC)
I agree. Also it would be good to see him interact with other Heroes because I like seeing him with Peter. His cynicsm annoyed a few but for me it seemed to emphasise that he is not just a paper-cut character there just for excellent voice overs but has an actual real life crisis going on. I remember feeling impatient in ep9 because of the Moh!overdose.

With Niki I think her whole power is so confusing they had to focus a lot on it in order for us to be able to know what exactly her abilities are before the finale[not that I am sure I still know] but perhaps now they can cut back on it a little bit.

Oh it's the opposite for me! When Eden came on scene first I was suspicious about her motives and I thought she was playing Mohinder for a fool but once we saw that she was working for HRGM I thought ok that's not too bad. This was partly because I don't think HRGM is out to hurt anybody per se and partly because we saw her stand up to him whenever she thought he was in the wrong. Of course i now realise that when she was saying NO she may have been trying to use her powers on him but meh I like her anyways. And the graphic novel about her was particularly stirring as well as the flashback ep. I mean having the power to persuade anyone to do anything has to have some very major negative impact on you and yet she managed to stay strong and wants to help save the world.

Look at me, I have talked more about Eden than Mohinder! O why did she have to die *pouts*

Also I wasn't averse to Isaac/Eden either. Thought I'd throw it out there.
17th-Dec-2006 10:54 am (UTC)
You know how much I cheer whenever we get 2 Heroes together? It is seriously funny. It's like I'm anticipating something great. I like seeing them all pitch in together. You know, despite Mohinder and Peter being in the same scenes together, I actually focused more on them as individual characters. I think mostly because I was empathising with Peter and just what he said to Mohinder in the taxi blew my mind because it sounded exactly like me. I loved Mohinder's retort though "Yes, we are ALL special" *said sarcastically* LOL It's the same kind of cynicism Nathan shows, but not as blocking just cutting.

I DO like that they've made him not 2D. I look to Mohinder as the brains of the whole thing, so I'm excited whenever he discovers something. It's nice that he has a background kinda story too. I'm actually really eager to see what he finds out next - there are so many questions in his life right now. And I'm glad he didn't fall straight into accepting it (I think that approach worked much better for him than for Simone. She still irritates me whether she believes or not. I kind of wish she just stuck to one rule of thumb.)

Oh wow so you're on the opposite side of the Eden camp LOL That's funny. I'm totally not an Isaac/Eden shipper. I actually think STRANGELY ENOUGH even though it appeared more like a brother/sister relationship at first to me that Isaac/Simone was the better pairing out of the ones they've tried to pair those 2 up with. And Peter, well, I just like him running around on his own. He doesn't need Simone... he's got Nathan to back him up :D

Um... I never saw Eden's graphic novel :( I haven't seen most of them actually. And I do remember reading Isaac's and having the show contradict it so I kind of don't want to rely on those for info anymore. I actually want to know what it is Eden knew about Sylar. He's got some anti-bullet thing going on there (Matt shot him twice and he walked away, and Sylar told Eden that she knew the gun wouldn't work on him). You know it did look as if Eden made her peace with everyone, which was a nice way to wrap it up before her death, but then she did promise Mohinder she was going to get back to him afterwards. It all makes me sad cause I keep thinking now she knew something that could have helped all along, but because of her situation with HRGM and the higher power over him, she was prevented from doing that. Still, it didn't stop her from being mischevous enough to give Isaac the swipe card to escape and attempting to kill Sylar on her own.

And of course that power has a negative side. If you spend so long telling other people how to think and what to do, you're going to start wondering if people are doing things of their own free will or because you made them. I kinda think it would be hard to love anyone under those circumstances (though she was very attentive to the boys).
18th-Dec-2006 10:12 am (UTC)
You know how much I cheer whenever we get 2 Heroes together? It is seriously funny. It's like I'm anticipating something great. I like seeing them all pitch in together.
I think the fact that they all have these fragmented lives with occassional collisions makes it all the more fun. These guys don't know each other yet and unlike normal comics this isn't one huge association out to save the world. They are all doing their small bit to save the world and I love that about them. Especially in circumstances like the DL/Hiro run-in where they don't even know they are working together XD

You know, despite Mohinder and Peter being in the same scenes together, I actually focused more on them as individual characters.
And yet at the same time you could see how parallel their lives were in a way. At that point in time, both Mohinder and Peter were searching for something more and well then there's the daddy-issues. Mohinder's cynicsm would be in a way worse maybe? Or so I thought, because here is a genetic expert who just that morning BELEIVED and yet now that Peter is there is not very impressed. Also I have noticed Peter isn't at all bitter about the fact that he doesn't seem to have his own special power and says easily "without others I'm not really anything".

I am very interested to see where Mohinder's story goes from here, as for Simone yeah I won't go there.

I actually want to know what it is Eden knew about Sylar. He's got some anti-bullet thing going on there (Matt shot him twice and he walked away, and Sylar told Eden that she knew the gun wouldn't work on him).
I truly did not pick up on this! I just thought he was using his telekinetic powers to deflect the bullets or something. I need to mull this over hmm.

and hmmm I can't remember where we were talking about Isaac/Eden now but I want to talk about it s'more so I shall just do it here :D

I mentioned that I wouldn't be averse to Isaac/Eden but you mentioned a sibling dynamic and now I'm thinking that wouldn't be all that bad either [LOL I am fickle]. I think I don't care what they could've been as long as they interacted! They just seemed so comfortable with each other and the way she looked after him kind of endeared me to him. And since you mention 'mischevous' that's what siblings do right? Have fun while the parents are away.

I really do recommend checking out the graphic novels. HRGMs emotions at Eden's death...no one can call him evil. He loved Eden as much as Claire. Also, how did the GNs contradict Isaac's story? *curious*



18th-Dec-2006 10:44 am (UTC)
Especially in circumstances like the DL/Hiro run-in where they don't even know they are working together XD

Uh huh, that's what I was referring to. I loved that. I was bouncing and squeeing and all in that situation (damn I was more excited over that than the Peter/Claire thing at Homecoming LOL :$ )

Mohinder's cynicsm would be in a way worse maybe? Or so I thought, because here is a genetic expert who just that morning BELEIVED and yet now that Peter is there is not very impressed.

Um, here's where it gets confusing. See I've always believed that Mohinder was cynical of his father's work, and he must have believed there was something there worth him getting killed over. So he's gone to check it out, and become more wrapped up in the mystery at the same time finding love for the thing his father was so passionate about (and this is what is conflicting within him because of his own beliefs that his father's work was pure fantasy). The ONLY thing that breaks from that is the flashback where Mohinder had read the book and was all excited about it (which made me go "Hmmm then why is he yelling at daddy later about running to NY for these theories?"

Peter isn't at all bitter about the fact that he doesn't seem to have his own special power and says easily "without others I'm not really anything".

Peter is used to not being important. He took great pride in the fact he did the nursing thing on his own without his father's money or support. He's a giver, not a taker, so in a different light you could look at it as if he's saying "If there's noone to help, then I have no purpose". It's what he lives for. He doesn't want to be special (well not desperately like Sylar), he just wants to help.

I mentioned that I wouldn't be averse to Isaac/Eden but you mentioned a sibling dynamic and now I'm thinking that wouldn't be all that bad either [LOL I am fickle].

LOL I meant Isaac/Simone (I was trying to work out what the deal was between them to start with). I think I saw Eden/Isaac more as teacher/student - or at least that's what I had hoped to see.

Where are the graphics novels again? Think I lost the link :(
18th-Dec-2006 11:04 am (UTC)
Uh huh, that's what I was referring to. I loved that. I was bouncing and squeeing and all in that situation (damn I was more excited over that than the Peter/Claire thing at Homecoming LOL :$ )
Oh I so know that feeling.

The ONLY thing that breaks from that is the flashback where Mohinder had read the book and was all excited about it (which made me go "Hmmm then why is he yelling at daddy later about running to NY for these theories?"
See, I think those were early days and Mohinder must have idolised his father back then. But once his father started pushing him away he most likely started believing in what the other genetic professors were saying. Had his father chosen to include him I think he would've stood up for him.

There is a lot of "to believe or not to belive" that must have gone through his mind and I think that for the most time the only reason he didn't was because he was bitter and angry and that as a scientist he likely did think that his father's theories could be right. After all when we first meet him, he is talking about evolution and abilities!

He's a giver, not a taker, so in a different light you could look at it as if he's saying "If there's noone to help, then I have no purpose". It's what he lives for. He doesn't want to be special (well not desperately like Sylar), he just wants to help.
Sounds about right. I think at first I liked Peter only because he was Nathan's sibling but I am coming to appreciate him for what he is now.

Isaac/Simone
As siblings? Seriously? I like the idea of Eden/Isaac siblings better :p Well, we could retain teacher/student with the sibling dynamic 'cause Eden could be the elder sister or something. *sigh* How I wish she would come back.

oh and here's the link:
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/

...the Peter novel is a bit...weird for me, I haven't had the chance to digest what it means for Peter's character yet.
18th-Dec-2006 11:41 am (UTC)
See, I think those were early days and Mohinder must have idolised his father back then. But once his father started pushing him away he most likely started believing in what the other genetic professors were saying. Had his father chosen to include him I think he would've stood up for him.

Oh good work :D That's what I needed to sort out my mind hehe. Thanks *hugz* I'll go with that.

...the Peter novel is a bit...weird for me, I haven't had the chance to digest what it means for Peter's character yet.

Thanx for the link! :D I just read the Peter one. Looks like a normal hospital bed... *doesn't want to be wrong about HRGM :$* UM... okay so I think that's the inner turmoil going on there where Peter suddenly thinks he's the cause of NY going KABOOM (amusing to see him picture himself like Superman). Of course that's another Peter-dream-that-won't-happen cause Nathan wasn't there so he COULD fly. Can u imagine them playing tag team? LOL That's be good.

Um if u wanna be literall about it we could wonder who'd be in such a protective suit - radioactive man so he doesn't radiate? Invisible man so he can be seen? Or maybe there really is some mimic shapeshifter person out there who IS pretending to be Peter and that's where this all comes from. When I looked at the shadow of that dinosaur in Isaac's painting it looked more manlike (well I said Peter-like LOL) than reptilian. *taps desk* interesting.

Now I think I'll go read the other ones :D
19th-Dec-2006 04:44 am (UTC)
Yeah the Peter flying bit was what was confusing me. I guess this less a prophetic dream and more an inner-turmoil one, like you said.

bah! my head just exploded with those possibilities you just mentioned.
19th-Dec-2006 04:55 am (UTC)
LOL NO!!!!!!!!!! *tries to piece your head back together* Can't do that or I won't have anyone to discuss my hundreds of theories with!

Oh, hey, I also checked out the other ones I missed too, and in the Hiro one he rips the front page of his comic off to make a crane. And on that front page is the same image of Peter in his Superman suit but lifting a car! So, hmm, that'd mean he's near Jessica and stuff. Think there's definately a Super!Peter in the future.

Oh and I've been stumbling onto some spoilers today (bad peeps, didn't think there WAS anymore LOL) and they said something about Peter being massively effected by his brush with Sylar and the powers there, so I'm starting to think that's the cause of his illness... though it bears explaining by the producers cause I'm still non-the-wiser.
20th-Dec-2006 06:30 am (UTC)
*back with a stiched up head ala Frakenstein's monster*

And on that front page is the same image of Peter in his Superman suit but lifting a car!
heh that's actually a reference to the first ever issue of the superman comic which had the same cover [or so I have read somewhere, possibly wikipedia] but I like the way you make connections.

Super!Peter as in with spandex and everything? Hmmm this could be er interesting.

Brush with Sylar making Peter ill makes me think how he has a thing for *fixing* stuff so if he takes people's brains there must be something wrong with said people and if he is assimilating whatever's in their brains into himself then he's getting worse and if he's getting worse then Peter being near him makes him bad which means that dream could be of Sylar as the threat and Peter only seeing it because he had a brush with Peter.

I'll shoot that theory down just by saying that Claire and the other heroes would never look at Sylar in a sympathetic way. Anyway, the flash of idea was good for the 5 seconds it took my brain to rationalize.
20th-Dec-2006 07:32 am (UTC)
Ahhh I see. Didn't know that. Thanx :D

No LOL Milo's not going to wear spandex. I think he already put his foot down about that one ;)

Yeah see my friend and I have this running theory that Sylar's original ability was that he can see things that are wrong with ppl (or that they're "broken"), and those are the ppl he's going after - ala Charlie with her illness, and Claire's mom told her she had a "genetic disorder" also. I don't think he's following the Suresh list because he wouldn't have made the same mistake Peter did if he was chasing by name. However my friend pointed out that he had caught a glimpse of "the map" and made his own (which was much more diverse and detailed I remember Mohinder pointing out). Nathan was on Sylar's map too! :| Does that mean there's something wrong with him? :( I dunno... things just don't make enough sense at the moment. But if Sylar's ill then Peter could be too. Maybe THAT is what they were trying to prove with Peter picking up Matt's headache!!!! K *quietens down now*

And not a bad theory, it's like my theory :P I agree *nods*
21st-Dec-2006 09:50 am (UTC)
The point about not going by the list is quite good. If he went by the map it would makes sense for him not to know who exactly in Odessa had abilities...but he must have seen something 'wrong' with Jackie to go after her and not Claire? I distinctly rememeber going "NOOOO" when I saw Nathan on the map,.

If sylar's ill because he's taking out all the 'bad' stuff and Peter has a brish with Sylar and through his abilities somehow gets ill too hmmmm
22nd-Dec-2006 09:31 am (UTC)
Yeah see that's where things kind of went off the rails. If he was able to "sense/see" something was wrong, should he not be able to "sense/see" who had powers? :( So I don't know, I think we need more info on Sylar and his abilities to string together everything they've shown us so far.

Yeah if Sylar's absorbing all the badness I guess he would be sharing it with Peter as well. So yeah every possibility he could be ill through that. And at least they've kinda promised to explain that so maybe we will know by Feb next year. :)
18th-Dec-2006 10:51 am (UTC)
Also, how did the GNs contradict Isaac's story? *curious*

Oh oops forgot to answer this :$ Um... in the finding out about his power thing. The novels said he painted a girl that got hit by a bus which he had showing at an art gallery, but I believe the show said the bus with the number in the paper and whatever was going on there was the first predictive painting that he had done (or at least discovered what he had done).
18th-Dec-2006 11:07 am (UTC)
I just thought that he tried to forget all about that girl/bus incident and then when other paintings started coming true he turned to drugs and then the bus-number thing was the moment he finally came out of denial, or perhaps just confronted Simone about it.
16th-Dec-2006 08:28 pm (UTC)
Exellent vid Jules!:) The song just fit in perfectly with the clips and I really hope he finds them all soon! But not too soon, of course!;)
17th-Dec-2006 01:48 am (UTC)
Thank u :D I'm sure he will find them soon. And then they'll have to put their heads together to work it all out ;)
23rd-Dec-2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
I didn't already leave feedback for this? Bad me.

This is wonderful. It's the best Heroes vid I've seen so far.
24th-Dec-2006 12:09 am (UTC)
Aw thank u :D That's sweet.
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